:: vague disease/craggled/as fire lizards/take 3 ::
by greenviolet, mattb, Ann, and lilah
::| an.exquisite.corpse : discussion : 28 |::
Ann, your work is alway masterful. But what you did here from the slice you were given is truly inspired. Too bad lilah didn't quite get it.
murfinator at March 2, 2006 7:48 AM
Oh WOW.
This one had the makings of a classic...
Shae at March 2, 2006 7:51 AM
Thanks murfinator. I love the whole top part of this corpse, the turkey legs turning into branches, the handdrawn haunted spirit tree, the orange color of that foreboding sky. Has a very Fall/Halloween/Thanksgiving/Native American/Euro-American ghost story folklore look to it. The title's pretty good too!
Ann at March 2, 2006 7:55 AM
This makes me want to pull my hair out. !@#$%^&*()_*&^%$ I can't exactly call it a FP because the last panel *is* orange, and there are some echoes of Ann's imagery there... but cripes! Lilah, is your monitor broken?
I can't help but notice that this lilah effort:
http://anexquisitecorpse.net/crypt/2006/02/the_dancing_eth.php
...is also a borderline FP. And following Ann to boot!
However, the colors and feeling in lilah's slices are just close enough to make me think that he/she is not blind, just really cruel. Lilah, you turn the screws.
Sorry, I just had to get that of my chest. Lilah, I love you. Ann, will you marry me? Greenviolet, you are the cat's pajamas.
Cheers,
mattb
mattb at March 2, 2006 10:30 AM
aw, man! this could have been really good. Love the first three frames. I wish lilah would have been a bit more.... precise. oh, well.
Zounds Padang at March 2, 2006 10:41 AM
ooh yeah love the top
yistergirl at March 2, 2006 10:45 AM
I think lilah is just new (this is like the 2nd contribution?) and possibly is working with the file at an altered size (maybe too high of resolution). Possibly even working with a non-image-editing software? Like MS Paint or Painter or something? or if not, perhaps doesn't have as much experience working with photoshop or gimp in this way? I really urge us to be temperate in these comments and assume good intent
burnunit at March 2, 2006 12:39 PM
Boy Ann just your luck to get stuck with me following you twice now. And with my first 2 slices Oy! You guys are something! Matt since you are so able to identify the elements of transition perhaps you can tell me how many it takes carried through to make a transition which pleases all of you. Thanks matt for at least seeing that I am not totally blind and I really don't mean to be cruel I just don't know what y'all want to see. Perhaps a few on down the road I will mean to be cruel but I can assure you not now ... I'm just trying to learn the unwritten rules of this game.
lilah at March 2, 2006 1:12 PM
um i am new myself lilah and i sympathize with being shaky starting out. i do wonder what software are you using? i think a good basic way to start a good transition seems to be to use exactly the same background color as the person before you. a lot of programs have the tool that lets you sample the color to see what it is... :)
yistergirl at March 2, 2006 1:18 PM
mattb:: Greenviolet, you are the cat's pajamas.
I adore adore the Great and Glorious Tree! Mythic.
greenviolet at March 2, 2006 1:33 PM
"I just don't know what y'all want to see"
As yistergirl said, copying the background color with the medicine dropper, as well as that of the elements (in this case only one scratchy dark grey color) would be a good start. In general, it's expected that you'll continue the colors and textures that you see down at least far enough to avoid a hard, perfectly straight "seam," and then somewhere well down into your own slice start to *gradually* introduce your own colors and textures.
Though some aren't a fan of this, you can also copy the previous 15 pixels and then flip them vertically and abut them to help you have something to start with that matches more or less perfectly.
Another technique is to use the "rubber stamp" tool (if you're in photoshop) to continue some of the texture down.
There are more tips and tricks in the "corpse mechanics" section of the forums ( http://anexquisitecorpse.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=fff9bd7978844ad49241c1200855d8c4 ).
A smooth transition and echoing some of the elements of the previous strip are what people expect, imho.
Shae at March 2, 2006 1:34 PM
VULTURES: When you're alone (when you're alone), Who comes around? (who comes around?) To pick you up (to pick you up) When you are down (when you are down)
THATS WHAT FRIENDS AAAARRREEE FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!! ;)
droozle at March 2, 2006 1:37 PM
Ooh, and I want to add one more thing, just in case it isn't obvious. It helps to work on a 400x215 to start with, with the previous 15 pixels right there in front of you for matching. You can lop them off when you're finished drawing and before submitting.
Shae at March 2, 2006 1:38 PM
Er... They're turkeys aren't they, not vultures! Wicked, wicked corpse though. Fantastic tree. Better luck next time Lilah.
droozle at March 2, 2006 1:40 PM
Ann's done an homage to her work in 153 [LINK].
chase the light at March 2, 2006 2:00 PM
i really REALLY enjoy the transition from panel 1 to panel 2. awesome job mattb.
hopefully i don't get ripped apart for my next corpse, you corpse masters are kinda ummm tough on the new kids you know?
nice try lilah, hope you're enjoying the game.
have a great day everyone.
cricket at March 2, 2006 3:00 PM
lilah - My sincere apologies if I offended. I was just in a snotty mood this morning and I took it out on you. I'm sorry. hug hug. :-)
mattb at March 2, 2006 5:15 PM
I count four turkeys...
FogBaron at March 2, 2006 9:09 PM
Mattb - no problem I understand and I myself was extremely frustrated with the colour problem. I really really wish I had a better program (which is why I am at this very moment downloading one). I could not pick the colour with a dropper nor could I match it well (obviously). As a matter of fact in that particular program it wasn't at all the colour which shows here on my screen now -- instead of being an orangey sort of colour it was a very dismal mustard ugh. Now that I see the corpse I am very upset that I couldn't get the colour matched any better if I had I would have been very pleased with how my slice transitioned. No one else may have liked it still but I would have been pleased. Anyway YES I am having gobbs of fun - isn't that the whole point of playing a game? Cricket thanks for standing up for me :) As far as using photoshop NEVER will happen I can't stand adobe products and refuse to use them unless forced to and I certainly won't be forced to while playing a game. I did two pull downs out of anger and frustration with not understanding what was wanted or how to accomplish it digitally and since then I have been studying some of the work here that I admire. I think I have picked up some new transition techniques and a bit more understanding so with future corpses I will try them out. Hopefully I will learn to make better transitions but you won't be seeing any eye candy or rubber stamping from this player that plain isn't art to me and it is not fun either. My slices may turn out to be fresh princes or just one small step from that but it won't be because of any silly transition line once I do get the hang of this. What I am wondering is why these seem to come out so totally flat. Has everyone lost interest in perspective?
lilah at March 3, 2006 1:42 AM
what do you have against adobe products? >_>
Aaron (kopaka88) at March 3, 2006 6:30 AM
Shae: I have to wonder if it's because you're a pointy-haired bossette in another life that you tend to provide the productive and supportive critique, or if it's simply part of your character.
Doesn't matter. Either way, it's a refreshing and most appreciated thing.
Miroje at March 3, 2006 7:27 AM
way to be shae.... sometimes I hate to have to do that flip vertical thing, but at those times I just feel limited in what I can do with what I'm given. Anyway, I just wanted to comment to Shae myself. I like it when people answer questions and don't shrug other people off because they may be ignorant of something. It's a shitty elitist way to be and I've always had a certain amount of disdain for that. Like "nanabooboo; I know something you don't know" type attitude. That's why we are here (on the internet) to share information and art freely with one another....At least that's why I'm here (on the internet and the planet.) The world needs more people to step forward and help out. Sorry I'm ranting, but anyway. Thanks.
Bill Porter at March 4, 2006 2:38 AM
Amen brother, I concur 100%.
Cicada at March 4, 2006 8:15 AM
Lilah, if you want to use something free, I've heard very good things about the program Gimp.
Shae at March 4, 2006 2:16 PM
lilah: just curious, what evil program were you using? photoshop isn't my fave either, but even ms paint lets you use a color picker.
please tell us the prog name so we can steer clear.
tony at March 5, 2006 1:30 AM
Hey! I use the GIMP ['for Windows' version]
I reckon it's pretty cool, esp. for a freebie.
Don't know a lot about it yet.
The colour picker tool works pretty well, depending on settings for it. Nice clone tool options too.
In any case:
I have noticed that a variation of as little as 1% in 'value' [or, I would guess,hue or saturation as well] is quite visible on my contrast-to-the-max monitor.
So, some care may need to be taken, for a good match.
Colin Vincent at March 5, 2006 1:55 AM
I was using photo impact or some such thing - only because I temporarily had lost PSP. Now I have PSP back (I think, I haven't actually installed it yet) and hopefully it will help some. Really to tell the truth I'm not all that unhappy with the colour change it sort of fits the corpse even if it was not intention but mistake and even though it does create a horizontal at the "incorrect" place. Given more time and more digital skills than I currently possess, I might have done a blend into that colour. Hopefully, as time goes on I will develop some more digital skills.
What I dislike about adobe products could fill several books and is not an issue for discussion or debate. It is just a matter of my personal preferences. If you like them fine I just happen to not.
I suspect I may not ever conform to current site norms - not that that bothers me overly much. I have identified a lot of talent playing here in some of you folks and I hope you all can get into the experimental spirit which keeps this art stuff both fun and challenging. Fact of it is life itself is not seamless so too perhaps with some parts of some corpses. With electronic media I think it is perhaps too easy to create certain effects and make things pretty and so very easy to forget that art is a method of communication only when you create something which has something to say. I think we did that with this corpse even if it does have a seam. :) Thanks corpse mates for the helpful hints and for leaving me an inch or two of skin.
lilah at March 7, 2006 12:27 AM
One of my favorites, mainly because of the top parts !!!
Bernard Dumaine at March 12, 2006 4:31 PM
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