By: jima
Did anyone else have a "MANOS: The Hands of Fate" flashback when they saw that final panel?
March 18, 2002 08:39 AM
By: D
I give this four Donald Sutherlands. Top marks.
Scary as hell though, as if Donald didn't have "the look" now he has the evil eye embedded in his deformed baby arm. And it started off so tranquil and innocently before descending into the evils of confessionalism.
March 18, 2002 08:45 AM
By: Mel
Are we blue?
March 18, 2002 08:57 AM
By: lacey
Herm...I participated in this and I don't even get it. Har har :)
March 18, 2002 09:01 AM
By: ZachsMind
I really dig this one. From the mythic pagan tree nymphs and symmetry of the first panel to the chaotic dark hellfire and brimstone of the final panel, with token product placement (baa baa) and Donald Sutherland as The Man Behind The Curtain, this corpse is truly inspired. The message in the second panel seems to be framed and amplified by the other panels, without literally mimicing the message. Gatorade & Chevy may trigger memories in some viewers like Pavlovian dogs, but so does the Scarecrow, so do computer graphics, so does Donald Sutherland's mischieveous smile, and so do hands with eyes in them (a visual that dates back before ancient Egypt). While not perhaps a feast for the eyes, this corpse definitely triggers food for thought.
March 18, 2002 09:07 AM
By: aladfar
I'm a little dissapointed with this one. Lacey's hand drawn top panel is beautiful, and set a wonderful tone for the corpse.
I guess I just wish that tone had continued throughout the piece.
Oh, and Mr. Sutherlands mangled hand - isn't that one of those little rubber "muscles" figures from way back in the day?
March 18, 2002 10:16 AM
By: hilary
My first impression was kind of a "At The Movies" feel with Donald sitting in for Ebert as the movie reviewer. Dark theater, light movie screen. I dunno where the hand fits in, but man that's creepy.
March 18, 2002 11:36 AM
By: hilary
Oh, and I first read it as "concession" instead of confession, you know, like "concession stand". More movie stuff. Am I the only one who comes away with the theater feel for this corpse?
March 18, 2002 11:38 AM
By: kat
This one is beginning to grow on me, but i hafta admit that i have been both looking forward to & dreading this day when this corpse was posted, which is the first corpse here that i've participated in. Yes, Hilary, i can see the theatre feel - the text in the bottom panel immediately reminded me of movie credits. OZ has been a long time favorite movie of mine, so the scarecrow & Dorothy are part of a pencil rendering i did years ago. Now i can't really explain just how Sutherland wound up in my panel, but i love him as well & when i happened onto his photo that day... well, he became part of my panel. It looks like Donald has had his hand in the fire!!
i am a little embarrassed tho that my panel sticks out like a sore thumb... or maybe that's a sore hand??
March 18, 2002 12:21 PM
By: kat
...additionally, the women in the top panel kind of resemble opened stage curtains. Lacey, that's beautiful panel with lovely possiblities.
March 18, 2002 12:26 PM
By: mirla
I LOVE your panel Lacey - did you draw the figures yourself? :-)
March 18, 2002 04:33 PM
By: allen
have to agree with aladfar. it's certainly not a bad corpse, as corpses go - interesting enough... but lacey's graceful top panel does seem to call for a lighter, more delicate treatment. ah, well. that's the nature of the beast, right?
March 18, 2002 04:38 PM
By: tina
Just a bit of "beauty and the Beast" !!!
March 18, 2002 07:27 PM
By: mirla
Well, you know how I am - never can resist an opportunity to play devil's advocate. There's no way Stephen could have known that Lacey's panel was so...lacy. He went with what he got and used his imagination. As did everyone else I'm sure. Which is what the game is about, right? There may not have been a deep psychic connection in this one, but lightning doesn't always have to strike for the corpse to be nonetheless interesting, as this one is. Hey, man, Donald Sutherland. Plus I just sang "All We Like Sheep" from the Messiah yesterday. So...you know...
Pretty nice seams, too... :-)
March 18, 2002 07:49 PM
By: Jacob
I agree with Allen that Lacey's segment has a wonderful delicacy, but I think Lacey made it difficult to follow on by leaving so much of the trailing edge of the piece blank. Still, it does appear Stephen completely ignored the few lines which were there; isn't this against the rules?
"That strip of pixels will now dictate to some degree what you can do with your space. You have to pick up where those tail ends leave off. If you don't, nothing will join up later and what the hell was the point, right? As long as you are employing what was given you, in whatever way you like (that isn't ignoring it), you can do anything you want."
March 19, 2002 09:40 AM
By: Andrew
Perhaps all this talk about The Rules should be set up somewhere else.
Hey, Phin, I know you're busy, but how 'bout a forum for this?
Anyway, nice corpse. I like it, despite the issues pointed out.
March 19, 2002 10:21 AM
By: D
{blows whistle}
Thats a penalty against Stephen for not following the rules to the letter and breaking the flow of a corpse. I demand compensation for the harm caused to my eyes.
Jacob, chill, its a collaborative project. You want really ignored leading edges? See Corpse 8 and Corpse 9
March 19, 2002 10:21 AM
By: Jacob
Stephen was obviously faced with a difficult amount of blank space, and I apologize for the implication that he was negligent. In his place, I could have concluded that the two edge elements were complete - they nearly are! I'm new to this game, and my question was really about when the rules are invoked and what the penalty, if any, is. Are segments ever rejected for failure to continue the previous piece?
March 19, 2002 05:46 PM
By: mirla
Penalties? Good Lord, absolutely not.
I'm with Andrew on moving the topic elsewhere...isn't there already a forum for these? (Maybe I should just look).
I'm listening to some (probably atonal) new pieces by student composers at 8 pm. Anyone wanna join me? :-)
March 19, 2002 06:52 PM
By: lacey
Okay okay okay, let's all just calm down, and let me explain my reasoning for the blank space.
A pattern I've seen in many corpses is an overuse of repetition and alt-dragging in photoshop, simply because the person beforehand had no idea how to treat the section they were given, and make the piece work. I left the middle section open because I wanted the next person to have as much freedom as possible, while still creating a top-to-bottom completed fee. I really was just hoping the next person would take advantage of the negative space.
But this is just a game! It was fun, and I'll do it again. And yeap, I painted those ladies. :)
March 20, 2002 09:44 AM
By: stephen
oops, definintely my penalty. i looked back at it and i left a layer off that had the information from lacey's piece. its also why the blending isnt quite right either. i have resubmitted the piece however, but ill definitely be going to the penalty box and throwing a towel over the camera.
March 20, 2002 11:47 AM
By: stephen
oops, definintely my penalty. i looked back at it and i left a layer off that had the information from lacey's piece. its also why the blending isnt quite right either. i have resubmitted the piece however, but ill definitely be going to the penalty box and throwing a towel over the camera.
March 20, 2002 11:47 AM
